Posts: 891
Threads: 17
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
108
(02-04-2016, 05:55 PM)Roselynn Wrote: (02-04-2016, 05:19 PM)Willy_for_Boobies Wrote: if you wanna "grope" do it in public or private chat and await the reaction ;-)
Nononononononoooooooo.
Why can't people understand this? Do NOTHING without consent. A PM saying *i slap your ass and squeeze your boobs* is just as bad. It's uninvited and unwanted. Yes, the recipient can just block you (which is probably the best course of action), but you shouldn't be making them uncomfortable in the first place. Guys wonder why they keep getting ignored and such.. this shit is one of the reasons.
That is what i meant with "await the reaction". ;-) (i forgot to put an "i" for ironic in the rigt corner)
Mostly i would expect an ignore for the unwanted "cold" grope.
Some people only would learn, when "it hurts".
Posts: 512
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2015
(02-05-2016, 05:15 AM)Willy_for_Boobies Wrote: (02-04-2016, 05:55 PM)Roselynn Wrote: (02-04-2016, 05:19 PM)Willy_for_Boobies Wrote: if you wanna "grope" do it in public or private chat and await the reaction ;-)
Nononononononoooooooo.
Why can't people understand this? Do NOTHING without consent. A PM saying *i slap your ass and squeeze your boobs* is just as bad. It's uninvited and unwanted. Yes, the recipient can just block you (which is probably the best course of action), but you shouldn't be making them uncomfortable in the first place. Guys wonder why they keep getting ignored and such.. this shit is one of the reasons.
That is what i meant with "await the reaction". ;-) (i forgot to put an "i" for ironic in the rigt corner)
Mostly i would expect an ignore for the unwanted "cold" grope.
Some people only would learn, when "it hurts".
I don't think you understand here. A guy 'gropes' a girl and gets ignored, he moves on. A girl gets groped, it can ruin her mood. "People would only learn".. but they shouldn't have to; it's fucking obvious already that you shouldn't do it.
Posts: 1,044
Threads: 46
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
193
BUT...ALL THAT REACTIONS!!!! grope, rape, PEOPLE, this is not real life...GROW UP!!!!! afraid of leaving the keyboard???? WHAT A HELL??? we are making a big deal from nothing, NOTHING, this is a GAME... an ADULT GAME, play it, deal with it, or go play angry birds or some other shit like that!!! GOD!!!!
Enough of this thread or some other thread like this!!!
To be simple is to be great
Posts: 1,110
Threads: 13
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation:
167
02-05-2016, 12:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-05-2016, 01:10 PM by Emmie.)
I know what you mean. But we're all looking for different things. I am fairly sure people know this is a game. But there are real people behind those characters. And people have feelings. I don't think it's ok to put people through things they are not comfortable with, even in games.
I think it's good that it gets discussed, cause then the developers can see that there are quite a lot of people who definitely don't want something like this in the game. At least not in the way it was suggested. ^^
Posts: 891
Threads: 17
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
108
(02-05-2016, 12:30 PM)Emmie Wrote: I know what you mean. But we're all looking for different things. I am fairly sure people know this is a game. But there are real people behind those characters. And people have feelings. I don't think it's ok to put people through things they are not comfortable with, even in games.
i agree with you completely ;-)
Posts: 1,044
Threads: 46
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
193
Emmie, i dont question that, of course, we all are persons behind the keyboard, we all have feelings, we all have our notion about right or wrong, we all have our morality ... what i question, is, why? why take a simple game issue to real life? and questioning the morality? why? in what world, cut people heads, brade swords, pull machine guns, axes and so many weapons that i dont really know what they are, is more acceptable, then grope someone? because i saw that happens...alot, and no one question about that, its alright, is just the kids playing, BUT GOD FORGIVE, if someone grope me or send me a troll PM, and even more if is just a poor fellow with language difficulties...BURN THE WITCH!!!
To be simple is to be great
Posts: 1,110
Threads: 13
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation:
167
02-05-2016, 02:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-05-2016, 02:36 PM by Emmie.)
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to Dom88 about how it was fun to slap womens asses and how they'd get "mad". <----- taken out of context, so please read his post before reacting. ^^
And that post was about real life as I understood it. My opinions is still that something like this shouldn't be added. But my talk about real life was a reply to Dom88 and not the original post of the thread.
So I didn't take this post, and make it about real life, it's just an argument that seemed to pop up, and I joined in.
Posts: 512
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2015
(02-05-2016, 02:24 PM)Fenix-TS Wrote: Emmie, i dont question that, of course, we all are persons behind the keyboard, we all have feelings, we all have our notion about right or wrong, we all have our morality ... what i question, is, why? why take a simple game issue to real life? and questioning the morality? why? in what world, cut people heads, brade swords, pull machine guns, axes and so many weapons that i dont really know what they are, is more acceptable, then grope someone? because i saw that happens...alot, and no one question about that, its alright, is just the kids playing, BUT GOD FORGIVE, if someone grope me or send me a troll PM, and even more if is just a poor fellow with language difficulties...BURN THE WITCH!!!
Fenix, I have seen very little of what you have just described. And when I have, it has typically been part of an RP where all parties are fully involved and having fun. If it is not just RP, and genuinely people acting aggressively towards each other, I have suggested they try talking about their differences rather than getting 'violent'. The point again, though, is that if all people involved are happy and consenting, then let them play. If anybody is not comfortable, then it is not okay.
Posts: 1,044
Threads: 46
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
193
Emmie, i tought that was to me, sorry...i've done so many mystakes latelly, thats another...
Sharp, you right, thats consented, i just dont like it, but, let them do it..let the kids playing, only...im afraid to leave the keyboard on that occasions, who knows?, maybe a sword or an axe come and cut my head, like a collateral damage!!!
To end this...in-game - grope system, ok if we have a KICK ASS button to fight back and the DND button protect from receiving one...
real life - all been said and i agree with all of it, i have that kind of situations in my life, is bad, we feel dirty, powerless...
Why turn an in-game suggestion into a real life discussion, dont know, but happens alot around here!!!
To be simple is to be great
Posts: 1,110
Threads: 13
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation:
167
02-06-2016, 01:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-06-2016, 01:13 PM by Emmie.)
I just wanna say, I get what you mean Fenix, there should be no need to get angry over a game, which is meant to be fun. ^^
But I think people turn to reality comparisons when morality and ethics come in question. Would you do this to someone irl? No? Then don't do it to someone in the game either. <--- That kinda thing. Though obviously it doesn't apply in all cases.
In this case though, it did come into question and was compared to real life, in such a way that, would you walk up to a stranger and molest them? (grabbing her breasts, pulling on his penis, etc etc). And I'm assuming most people wouldn't, since it is in fact a crime, but even if it wasn't, I'd like to think most people still wouldn't. In turn, you probably wouldn't do that on here either. That kind of comparison.
So we're not making real of the game, the comparison is just to illustrate how, in this case, wrong something is. Cause it would promote sex without consent.
Now, I probably wouldn't be scared to go AFK, but if I got back seeing my pixelated self getting molested or raped, I would definitely be disgusted.
|