Recent Changes/Updates and Thoughts

[crimsonextacy]

(12-22-2019, 07:18 PM)NotMe Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 07:36 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 06:34 PM)Nelliel Wrote: hello to all!
i have a big problem with the newest update. as a women i feel really insulted and humiliated with it

I'm sorry to hear that it bothers you so much but there isn't much you can do about it. Simply don't buy it.

 
I guess, if someone feels insulted and humiliated, it could be not just  because of the existence of the milking pose/option itself, but also because of the new "milking cow"-image on the starting screen http://www.mnfclub.com, which you have to look at each time you log into the game … 
so "Simply don't buy it" is perhaps not really the solution for this problem …

You could ask the mods to say something to the dev's but would they actually change it? I'm assuming they're keeping the starting image until at least early next year due to the holiday theme.

And though I agree that the idea of a milking pose would have a limited target audience I disagree that Futa characters and poses would as well. Plenty of people have been asking for Futa characters for years and loads of people have Futa characters in the game. If you go to the beach or wild west areas on a crowded server you'll easily see like a dozen characters with the word "futa" in their screen name. And then theres still people who play as futa characters without having the word in their name and Male and Female characters who have their bios saying they like Futas. Obliviously not everyone is into these characters but its certainly not a small percentage.

[Sasso]

Considering the backlash against the way this has been monetized what would people want if they "fixed" it? If the price was changed to make it so that it was obtainable though in game means permanently, should the people who had already bought the milking or futa pose be reimbursed somehow? I doubt they could be refunded, but maybe they could be provided with complimentary membership.

I haven't seen the new pose yet or the effects of the potion in game but personally, I'm kinda into a milking pose.

[subgirl25]

ok heres my 2 cents on this futa thing is understandable but milking its fine if they had pregnancy options its makes since but since thats not a option i see it was just wrong but if u dont like it theres really only one thing u can do about and thats stop giving them money if they loses enough paid players then they might do a change but other then that they dont care

[NotMe]

(12-22-2019, 08:27 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote: And though I agree that the idea of a milking pose would have a limited target audience I disagree that Futa characters and poses would as well. Plenty of people have been asking for Futa characters for years and loads of people have Futa characters in the game. If you go to the beach or wild west areas on a crowded server you'll easily see like a dozen characters with the word "futa" in their screen name. And then theres still people who play as futa characters without having the word in their name and Male and Female characters who have their bios saying they like Futas. Obliviously not everyone is into these characters but its certainly not a small percentage.

I agree. The so called "Futa" option is also used in many creative ways by Sissies, feminine boys, Gays, Tanssexuals, Transgenders, Shemales etc. It is more than just a pose, cause you can see/show cock and breasts in public. So it is a bit like a "third gender" character. 
I guess we all know, that many of the female avas are obviously played by males (which is ok, it is a game, where people like to experiment), especially many of the "Bimbos", "Whores", and "Sluts". That means, in my view, that under the carpet, the hetero dominated mnf-game is really not that straight at all. So the Futa/shemale-option is one good way, in my opinion, to open up more diverse possibilities to play with gender here. (Especially because there is only one MM pose, even no shower).
So i appreciated the invention of the Futa/shemale option a lot. It is just a shame, that since the announcement of "more poses" on 10/10/19, nothing happened. 
Now i am really worried, if it is just the time of a finale sellout of mnf: offering more new expensive expansions, but not providing the promised service (for futa/shemale). Has this something to do with the general technical problems of the game, which are discussed here in the forum ("MnF Club, an uncertain future")?
It would be great, if you, Sasso, and any other Mod, could help us in this situation.

[Overfiend]

I could see how futa option fills the gap of letting males play as both male and female. But in part its a band-aide for the games lack of thoughtful development. The game should aim to attract females and provide an fair outlet for the lesbian and gay community
Again it proves the point that the game is missing some fundamental features leading people to alternatives. Here is a list of some basic things that the game needs that should have been a higher priority than the milking pose.
Fundamental things still missing in the game
1. MM poses in general. Especially MM oral
2. FF oral sex pose
3. a high rewarding money making method for Males. for example a Stripper option for males. Males would feel less inclined to play as a female "Slut" or "Whore" if males felt like they could make money as a male
4. Sex play options & poses that are attractive to females.
a. Poses do not include kissing, playing with the clit, romantic embracing, fondling and just the general sexual skills of females.
b. There should be more poses where females can show their moves. For example Strippers don't have a proper lap dance pose. That's a default at nearly every real strip club
c. every pose should include a female climax option along side the male cum option. So female can have the option of climaxing even if he doesn't cum. that would be very hot.
5. MF Foreplay poses are lacking - no handjob pose, no spanking, mutual masturbation pose (handjob & fingering at the same time). the milking pose is an attempt at tit play pose but it seems to go too far with the milking aspect. I love tit play but i'm not into it for bucket of milk.
6. Still missing some basic threesome poses.
a. FFM - Where is the pose where he fucks her while she licks another girl?
b. FFM Where is the pose where one girl is riding his cock and the other girl is riding his face?
c. FFM where is the double blowjob.
d. MMF where is the alternating blowjob and handjob pose. She should be able to suck one cock while giving the other a handjob.
e. MMF popular variations like the cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and doggy style double penetration poses (pussy, ass and mouth fucking).
7. Still missing FFFM altogether. It's a man's dream to fuck a lot of women at once. In a male dominated game where's the pose with 1 guy and 3 girls.
8. MFMF group sex is missing altogether. Sex parties are in desperate need of one.
9. We still have zones in the game which are under developed like the Cabaret, the Casino, the Suburbs.
10. where's the Glory hole for players to participate with each other.
11. Where's the option for additional female body types - slim and thick, changing the butt/hip size
12. Shower sex poses are underdeveloped across the board
13. Additional public sex locations are underdeveloped

There are so many underdeveloped yet fundamental things that it just doesn't seem like the milking pose should have been a priority.
If money was the driver then it should have been a one-time cost for free users but not an additional cost to premiums.
At most premiums should be able to pay with in game money that we received from paying months and months of real money in premiums already

[nula]

for reference, how much of a money maker is the mmo compared to the main mnf site?

[proncain]

(12-23-2019, 12:48 PM)nula Wrote: for reference, how much of a money maker is the mmo compared to the main mnf site?

This is the kicker. The main site is updated every two weeks without fail, sometimes more, with entirely new games that feature multiple poses and the devs are very active on those forums. You have to pay to play at all and they charge twice the amount per month as they do here. Many of there game ideas come from users on the forums, and they credit those users in the games.

Over here, there is a free option, premium access is cheaper, but they have to deal with a live player base for an MMO, and they DO NOT take criticism well, hence their absence on these forums. Vadim used to be active here, until people started asking questions and requesting (understandably) that the devs communicate their plans for future updates. Now I am convinced their fragile egos won't let them even look at these forums or the twitter because with each new money grab (which has been happening steadily since the release of the bank's option to buy currency with real money), they are met with backlash that they almost always ignore.

To answer your question, I'm not sure myself which site makes more. I'm sure someone out there can find out, but it's no real secret why the devs pretty much ignore the club besides tossing an "update" this way every couple months.

[crimsonextacy]

(12-23-2019, 11:28 AM)NotMe Wrote: Now i am really worried, if it is just the time of a finale sellout of mnf: offering more new expensive expansions, but not providing the promised service (for futa/shemale). Has this something to do with the general technical problems of the game, which are discussed here in the forum ("MnF Club, an uncertain future")?
It would be great, if you, Sasso, and any other Mod, could help us in this situation.

This is a concern I have as well. Once Flash is disabled at the end of next year what happens with this game? I'm assuming and hoping that the downloadable version is the solution to keep the game going into 2021. If not would the dev's even inform us that the game is ending? If we dont get more of the "promised" futa poses next year and instead keep getting more cash grabs as updates I'm fearful that they are giving up and are literally trying to milk the games audience for as much money as possible while they still can. 

This also raises the question as to what happens with the main site after flash is disabled? I dont check their other works but are the new games they post still all flash based?

[proncain]

(12-23-2019, 10:00 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote: If not would the dev's even inform us that the game is ending?

No. When this game does die, we won't realize it for a couple months until suddenly one day we can no longer reach the site and the twitter is deleted. They will treat us the same way in this games death as they do during its life, with silence.

[JacarandaJuliet]

This new lactation update is awful. For one thing, it's a blatant attempt to get players to pay even more real money on top of premium to get content that has been requested by premiums and non-premiums alike. Just like the futa update. And houses. And yachts, which I don't recall seeing anybody ask for at all. Second, as a nursing mother who has experienced a LOT of harassment by males in particular who think lactation is intended for kinky fetishes and not providing nourishment to actual babies, this update is frustrating. Breastfeeding and lactation are already sexualized enough without games like this making it even more sexual! Stop making things worse for us, we already have to hide ourselves feeding our babies by sitting on toilets or in tiny special areas behind closed doors while older people can publicly dine in comfort without being turned into sex objects.