Economy balance discussion

[cbocchi]

Ok, so let's see if i got it right.

The situation before the last change:
-i earn 10K$ with the alt farming in less than an hour. I never checked the time precisely, but it was FAR less
-with that money, generated out of nothing, i can have fun. Buying things, tipping at the dancers, renting room, and so on.
-the result is: a small amount of time in generating cash, and then fun. I don't know about you, but fun is the purpose, when i play a game.

The situation AFTER the last change:
-i still need ingame money
-i still generate it out of nothing. Doesn't matter if it is a minigame or something else. It's just created
-now the process is MUCH slower. For example, in the glory hole minigame , i never earned more than 250$. To earn that, i spend somethinglike 7 minutes
-i know that i'm not good at all, but you know what? i don't like the minigames. I am here for fun, not for the minigames.

So, please correct me if i'm wrong. To me, the only result is that the game is less fun! With fun, i mean : doing what you want,being free to do what you like. Now you have to spend more time in doing something you NEED, before. And, please: it's MORE than an entire HOUR in doing that. Lol, it's more than enough to make me die out of boredom. Yeah, let's play with Pamela again.... and again... and more..

So my question is: WTF? It was a nice game! i stay here just time that i like, and do the things that i like. It's not a tragedy, it's just a game, if you really really want to ruin it all you are free to do it, it's your game, not mine. And i will keep living happily, even without it. But still, WTF?

[carnacien]

(05-11-2017, 03:15 AM)JohnSins Wrote: Its much easier to just host an auction for a few hours and make 50k+

maybe u should make one and see how it goes man.

[Vrook]

Making over 50k, as you are stating, John, it's not really achievable anymore, since money aren't so easy to make, as before. So, you won't see those enormous amounts someone was willing to bid, for one of those who were selling themselves.

[JohnSins]

Throwback to when Hosts made 50k+ on just 1 person.... Vrook, if the average price for a player is $25,000 and there are 20 people at a 10% tax, you should make 50k. In theory, this is a horrible auction. I know that people are less willing to spend money nowadays, but the average price per person certainly did not drop from 100k+ to less than 25k. If so, host are just accepting the wrong people to join....
Anyways, I might as well actually see what the norm is in these auctions. HMU if you know of an auction.

[Zephyr]

To cbocchi
That’s right. I was going to change all a Prem Av’s outfit colours. 5k exchanged for 2.5k would mean I had to work hours to do that. Boring for me and no interaction with other players which is surely point of game.

[Vrook]

John, appreciated the point you made in this post. But, let's break it down and look at it a bit.

First of all, this game is one in which people come to relax, enjoy and/or spend time with their friends. Well, for some, money don't really wield to much value anymore, since they mostly stay up and chat, don't go to rooms too much anymore or spend money on clothes. But, there are others who would want to buy the new outfits, for example.

And now, let's look in the money outcome, that the minigame you proposed it's yelding. The new BDSM Harnesses, are like, 1,750$ each.
To earn that amount on Rodeo, would require 35 perfect runs. Which, if you add up, will total 29 minutes. 30 to make it round.
And well, assuming, you get 35 perfect runs. That means, no random kicking out from the bull, done by the game, or lag, or server crash, or flash crash, and the list can go on.
And that is for only one piece of clothing.

I don't say, bring back alt farming. But, if you set this high prices for some things, you need to balance the economy even more. I mean, either you make rodeo to pay for the whole amount you stay on it, meaning, if I stay on for like 80 seconds, I get 80$.

But, we talk, talk, talk, without real impact on the actual game. Unless devs will balance the economy further, this are only assumption, remarks and suggestions.

As always, it's my opinion, with which you can agree or not.
Till other times, with all due respect,

[Avax69]

(05-12-2017, 07:39 AM)Vrook Wrote: John, appreciated the point you made in this post. But, let's break it down and look at it a bit.

First of all, this game is one in which people come to relax, enjoy and/or spend time with their friends. Well, for some, money don't really wield to much value anymore, since they mostly stay up and chat, don't go to rooms too much anymore or spend money on clothes. But, there are others who would want to buy the new outfits, for example.

And now, let's look in the money outcome, that the minigame you proposed it's yelding. The new BDSM Harnesses, are like, 1,750$ each.
To earn that amount on Rodeo, would require 35 perfect runs. Which, if you add up, will total 29 minutes. 30 to make it round.
And well, assuming, you get 35 perfect runs. That means, no random kicking out from the bull, done by the game, or lag, or server crash, or flash crash, and the list can go on.
And that is for only one piece of clothing.

I don't say, bring back alt farming. But, if you set this high prices for some things, you need to balance the economy even more. I mean, either you make rodeo to pay for the whole amount you stay on it, meaning, if I stay on for like 80 seconds, I get 80$.

But, we talk, talk, talk, without real impact on the actual game. Unless devs will balance the economy further, this are only assumption, remarks and suggestions.

As always, it's my opinion, with which you can agree or not.
Till other times, with all due respect,

could things like clothes and all the accessories such as hats and glasses cost less? yeah........do they need to cost less...no not really, i mean seeing as to how most outfits are premium and well i'd imagine most premium players tend to have 1k or more its not too big of a deal, again could things be priced a little lower hell yeah they could but they dont exactly need to be, slightly better payouts as i've said and many others have said would be nice and VERY much appreciated by many in the community just so its not a tedious process a person needs to go through to make money, frankly though if a person really really wants something they could spend the rough idk 30 mins to an hour to make the money, not saying the way things are is perfect in any way, but it's still better than allowing ppl to just take advantage of alt farming, its been i think like a month since the whole alt farming thing got killed off, it'll take time for anything major to really change, whether its in the form of dropped prices, bigger payouts or something entirely different i'd like to think that things will get a little easier/better, but just not to the point where people can abuse the idk system? 

anyways just my thoughts as always haha, just a tad annoyed at some of the complaints, mostly from people who probably have money saved up but are used to just throwing away crazy stupid amounts of money (not trying to be rude or offend anyone here, just saying my thoughts on the subject)

[Zackman]

Geez. all this drama for imaginary money. Whats the matter afraid strippers and gold diggers will stop pretend they like you.

[stealthneko]

My main concern so far is that through the options given through the game (minigames and stripping and what not) female avatars by FAR have much better options and it is much easier to earn money playing a woman. I believe that needs to be balanced out and not with microtransactions. Sorry if this has already been stated, trying to get to my 5 posts a day on something that interests me rather than being a spammer.

[Avax69]

(05-13-2017, 06:44 PM)stealthneko Wrote: My main concern so far is that through the options given through the game (minigames and stripping and what not) female avatars by FAR have much better options and it is much easier to earn money playing a woman. I believe that needs to be balanced out and not with microtransactions. Sorry if this has already been stated, trying to get to my 5 posts a day on something that interests me rather than being a spammer.

Slightly true I guess.........i mean ultimately I'd say it comes down to what the person no matter the gender is comfy doing and or likes, stripping isn't fun for everyone and it can take awhile to earn anything from at times (probably more so now than ever before), and well the "other" ways ain't for everyone either(sex LOL), the mini games work in a sense that no matter the gender it all more or less pays out evenly, though believe me I am well aware of the well let's just say "variety of ways" a woman/female character can make in the game over a male character, so it would be nice to have more options for men (though personally I'd much rather see more options for both genders)