Economy balance discussion

[vinnie007]

Well for i am new here so pls for give my intrusion, I think its a good thing the did for the greater good some people were destroying the games economic system and not to meson the illegal sales and purchase of premium codes.

[Inala]

To be honest i don't know why some people are so annoyed by the economy "problem". In the end this is a game for meeting people and having fun with them and actually you need 0 money to do it.

I could play the game having no money and i would enjoy it almost as much as i am doing having it. And i say almost because i get small fun times now and then by buying new outfits or using some pose in a room, but i'd say that it is like 5-10% of the total fun i get, so it is not a big deal.

Also on every game there are items that you can't get unless you spend a lot of time collecting money for buying them, you never can have them all just by spending a few minutes making money now and then. So i don't see why this game should be an exception. If you want to have money work for it, don't blame the developers for not making it easy for you.

Some say that the new system will kill the auctions and the pole dance. Well, auctions are not part of the game, they are just something that players added so... i'm sure that the players will figure out some other thing to do. And the pole dance is dead since long ago. 99% of the dancers are alts from guys that want to make easy money. Most of them just go afk there and wait for people to throw tips till they notice that the dancer is not really playing. The actual dancers get money, just because they are alive!!! And they will continue to get it. Less than before, sure, but they will get money anyhow.

What is true is that men need a way of making money similar to the pole dance for women.

And one last point. Even on the pole dance the main use should be for having fun there and not to make money.

[Anghelo]

(04-26-2017, 07:29 AM)Inala Wrote: To be honest i don't know why some people are so annoyed by the economy "problem". In the end this is a game for meeting people and having fun with them and actually you need 0 money to do it.

I could play the game having no money and i would enjoy it almost as much as i am doing having it. And i say almost because i get small fun times now and then by buying new outfits or using some pose in a room, but i'd say that it is like 5-10% of the total fun i get, so it is not a big deal.

Also on every game there are items that you can't get unless you spend a lot of time collecting money for buying them, you never can have them all just by spending a few minutes making money now and then. So i don't see why this game should be an exception. If you want to have money work for it, don't blame the developers for not making it easy for you.

Some say that the new system will kill the auctions and the pole dance. Well, auctions are not part of the game, they are just something that players added so... i'm sure that the players will figure out some other thing to do. And the pole dance is dead since long ago. 99% of the dancers are alts from guys that want to make easy money. Most of them just go afk there and wait for people to throw tips till they notice that the dancer is not really playing. The actual dancers get money, just because they are alive!!! And they will continue to get it. Less than before, sure, but they will get money anyhow.

What is true is that men need a way of making money similar to the pole dance for women.

And one last point. Even on the pole dance the main use should be for having fun there and not to make money.

I agree that the purpose of this game is to meet and fuck. But unless you are an incredible master of Role Play, if you are a man your probabilities to fuck are really low. That's why many people choose to buy expensive things in order to call attention and create "characters" (BBCs, Futas, Cops, Escorts, etc.) and for that is very neccessary money. In other words, "More money, more fuck". That's how most of people have been playing until now and that's the reason why most of them are annoying. Our principal source of incomes has been removed and playing mini-games is so boring that almost nobody want to play them 5 or 10 times in order to get few dollars.

That said, to calm community's anger, devs should add a simple, interactive, and sexual way to earn some money and that's what we are calling 'Jobs'. I would like to suggest some ideas:

- Bartenders (Bar Vodka): Selling drinks and talk with customers.
- Security Guards (Casino): They protect casino and keep order.
- Lifeguards (Lagoon Beach): Same that casino guards but in the beach. lol
- Museum Guide (Museum of Sex Art): He shows the best picks of the museum.

:: When you get a job, you will recieve an uniform. There will be just one way to work: Doing RP. You must act like those characters. Of course if you don't act you will recieve the minimum pay that would be 20$ per minute (max. 30 mins in a day). But if you do it well, you could multiply your incomes (max. x10) based in a rating system. Prem users or Normal users level 5-or-more would have the ability to qualify your job (from 1 to 10 stars) and in that way is calculated your pay ( 20$ x Rate = pay). I think, an average player could make at least 2K in a day.

That's the idea, just 30 mins for work and the rest of the day to meet and fuck.

[Inala]

That line of thinking has a flaw. If making money is easy then the things you are buying in order to be noticed will be accesible for everybody. So those things will have no effect because everybody around will have the same things.

That said i think that having more ways of getting money would be a good thing, but not easier ways that the ones we already have. In my opinion if you want/need to buy stuff you should have to spend some time earning it. Money should be a reward not something that we have for granted.

Also you don't need to be a master in RP xD
Have you ever noticed the huge amount of people that say in their bio that they don't like RP or that they are not good at it?

And if you ever watched public RP's or group RP's in rooms i bet you've noticed that most people are not good at it. Still they find other people to do it and enjoy it.

[sman]

(04-16-2017, 07:14 PM)carnacien Wrote: So i took a bit of time here to make sure: it seems making 1 k on rodeo takes about 25 minutes. Pretty sure its the fastest way (and even stripping might not be as profitable as its been now that money is hard to come by, so i wont even make the m/f distinction)

So 5 k for 5$ doesnt seem too bad anymore, now that u did prevent alt farming.

But i d say there are still 2 problems:
- room price suddenly seems too high to me, it should at least be halved, because it shoudnt be an issue to get a room in a sex game. 
(-same for clothes prices)
- existing money is just ridiculous compared to what pple can make now. It should be divided and/or capped.

Any thoughts?

This is going to be a different kind of game after this update. But still i would say that the cost of the in game money should have been capped lesser. If this is done then it will be a really appreciable effort. But i see there are people who are having millions till now.... I dont know what happens to them,.... 

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(04-26-2017, 04:45 AM)vinnie007 Wrote: Well for i am new here so pls for give my intrusion, I think its a good thing the did  for the greater good some people were destroying the games economic system and not to meson the illegal sales and purchase of premium codes.

this is a valid point...

[Overfiend]

Generally speaking on the topic of economy
Premium users should also be allowed to work in the Bank, Glory Hole, Shooting Range and Hotel (maid service) servicing patrons as an alternative to the NPC for sex. It would add variety and excitement to those poses and draw people to use them while giving other users a chance to earn money & feel sexy.

[malod]

well, they could to boost cash from minigames x2 (rodeo is 50, up to 100) or when you level up you grinding more cash x your level

[APFligher]

Listening to all the different ideas, I do like the concept of the jobs outside of the brothel. However, I'll go ahead and figure that those will take quite a bit of work to implement. Boosting the cash from the mini-games will likely work, but that could unbalance everything just as easily.

So my suggestion is take one from another play book. 3DXChat has a daily sign in bonus. 200 igc each day, with a bonus to that with each consecutive day up to day 3. This is me going off my memory for over a year ago, but I think it took me about a month to build up the igc to actually buy my second character slot (10k) that way, but it worked for their economy. I'm not sure how well it would do here, but its worth the mentioning.

[Overfiend]

on another note I would like to offer some ideas for mini-games
a mini game where 1 guy servicing lots of women, like a reverse gang bang. Its a male version of the glory hole.. a guy has to lick, suck, finger & fuck pussies, asses, mouths and breasts & nipples similar to a glory hole for money. here are some possible plotlines
1. A guy serves as a sex slave to a secret society of powerful women.
2. A guy serves as sexual entertainment to a bachelorette party
3. A guy serves as a sextoy in a dare with a sorority.
4. A guy tries to sell his sperm at a sperm bank and the nurses provide him with some inspiration to ejaculate and collect his sperm.
5. A guy visits a neighbor having an all girl slumber party and pay him to be their private sextoy
6. Or he is a adult toy sales man and host a party for his clients and they test his services
7. Or he tries out for a porn video and the director asks the girls to test his skills..
8. Or he walks down the wrong alley and discovers a girl gang that just robbed a bank. He asks for some of the money to keep silent and they say ok as long as he fucks every girl in the gang
9. He becomes a teacher at an all girl school and the girls in the school go crazy to finally see a guy so they all beg him to fuck them and they pay him to stay silent
10. He's an instructor for an all female aerobics class and the ladies decide they would rather pay him for a sexercise instead
11. He's a manager of strip club and it's time for the horny strippers to pay their commission to the house and cure their horny urges from the sexual tension of giving lap dances all night
12. He's visits a Sexy Restaurant with sexy waitresses and the menu includes sexually referencing delights like a Creampie, a tossed salad, a Melon salad, young hot veal, Creme Brule and the list goes on. His job is to win the Creampie eating contest by having all of the sexual treats the waitresses provide to him.
The lists of possibilities goes on and on

[Avax69]

@Overfiend your ideas always sound like they'd take slot of work to make and then implement lol granted they're good ideas most the time that I'm sure many would like to see added but honestly for the whole money thing it'd be much easier and simpler to just add in a login bonus each day for 3-5 days then have it reset or increase the payout of some of the current existing mini games, me personally I'd prefer at least one new mini game that pays out at a slightly higher and more consistent rate than the others but that's just me being picky/greedy lol