(05-12-2017, 12:54 AM)JohnSins Wrote:(05-11-2017, 09:46 AM)cbocchi Wrote: The situation before the last change:Red=Me
-i earn 10K$ with the alt farming in less than an hour. I never checked the time precisely, but it was FAR less (TEN ALTS?!?! Devs got rid of farming only because people like you abused it, they weren't concerned with others who had like 1 or 2 alts, so that's on you)
-with that money, generated out of nothing, i can have fun. Buying things, tipping at the dancers, renting room, and so on. (The money was generated out of your time and energy, its called labor)
-the result is: a small amount of time in generating cash, and then fun. I don't know about you, but fun is the purpose, when i play a game.
The situation AFTER the last change:
-i still need ingame money (After making 10k a day, i doubt you really "need" more money. I met people on here that "needed" to make a mill too....)
-i still generate it out of nothing. Doesn't matter if it is a minigame or something else. It's just created (Its generated out of real cash, or labor)
-now the process is MUCH slower. For example, in the glory hole minigame , i never earned more than 250$. To earn that, i spend somethinglike 7 minutes (Rodeo yields the best money output per x amount of time, try that)
-i know that i'm not good at all, but you know what? i don't like the minigames. I am here for fun, not for the minigames. (no one likes the mini games, but that doesnt mean its ok to cheat [in essence])
Are you trying justify your exploitation of the game because its not fun earning money?.... What do you do in other games if it requires time and energy to get money? What about in real life? The in-game money officially has some worth to it, so the devs aren't going to bring back the alt farming, or else why would anyone pay real money for it. In 10 days, you made $100k, and that's JUST 10 days. Imagine the months you've been doing this for.... so idk how your "bankrupt." The harshness of my critique wasn't to offend or make fun of you, but for you to see the error in everything you have said....
Ok, i have to be more precise. Maybe what i wrote was not clear.
1) I play the game for fun. It means that i play the game for the interaction with other people. Interaction of different kinds, but nothing more than that
2) I don't play the game with other purposes. I mean that everything that i don't consider fun, is not my purpose.
3) I don't do it every day. Well, i didn't do it every day, i didn't even do it every week. I did it every now and then. 10K are way too much to me to spend every day. I just did it this way because i was comfortable with it. With comfortable i mean: reasnoably little time to do it, with a reasonably great outcome.
4) It is not called labor. Labor is different. With labor you produce goods or services, and sell it for money. Here i am not producing goods, i am not producing services. I am producing nothing. If i print a newspaper and sell it, i produce a good. If i carry you the newspaper somebody else is printing, or if i give you a massage, or so, it is a service.
5) AGAIN: i am here for fun! This is NOT real life. In real life i love my job, and my real life is not of your concern.
6) AGAIN: i am here for fun! As i wrote in my previous post, i am NOT here for minigames, i am NOT here for labor! I don't care about the conomy, if a game is BORING to me, it cannot be FUN.
so again, WTF? and not only just about the game, but WTF is so difficult to understand? i don't want to cheat, i don't even want to be honest. Being honest is not what we are talking about here. In real life, i could understand the point about being honest, because if i find a way to creat a resource out of nothing, especially if it is prohibited to do so, i am creating a situation which is bad for a number of reasons, and i AGREE with those reasons. But here, in this game, outside of real life, I want to spend the fun part of my day just having fun! If i am supposed to do something which is not fun, well that's not fun. Is it clear now? What to me is fun, to me is fun. What to me is not, to me is not.
My point is: if i need to spend all that time in "Labor", this is not fun anymore. It is "labor". I am not complaining, because, as i said, the game is not mine. The owner of te game is free to do whatever he/she/they want to do with it.
But if the purpose of a gamer is fun, to me this is the wrong step.
If the purpose of a gamer is spending time for doing a repetitive boring action just to be able to do something else, well, this is a great step.
PS: there is some sarcasm in my post, just in case someone else finds it difficult to see it.