Economy balance discussion

[Zephyr]

I agree that we need better ways to make money, especially as I am poor at mini-games.

I think that the idea of stocks and shares is rather too complicated for what it is likely to achieve:  also, those who will benefit most won’t be new players but those with cash from when they alt farmed.

I prefer raising rewards rather than lowering prices.   If I bought an outfit for $1000 which I could sell for $500 and found it now only cost $250 and was worth $125 I don’t think that I would find that “fair”.

Different types of player have different requirements for money and different opportunities to earn it:
Prem girls have more clothes available than prem men and non prems;  they are also likely to want to buy more.   Ok, whilst still true it is much less so now as prem men will also want apartments but the prem/non-prem balance is still there.

Prem girls also have more opportunities to make money.   Not just stripping which is only available to them but in practice men, non-prem girls ( and low level prem girls) are not so much in demand at auctions or for selling xp points.

There is definitely less money flowing in game now;  there is no doubt as much in total but those that have it are less inclined to spend it as it has become harder to replace.   Auction prices are way down:  you could probably make more in rodeo in same time.

Some have said casino now pays less:  I have not played it seriously recently but when it opened if you started with enough to keep playing a big win would eventually put you in front.

With the advent of paid for in game cash I can’t see the Devs making it any easier.

PS Annoyed that Apts are not available to all on same prem account

[Overfiend]

I'm also annoyed that the apts are not available to all avatars on the same premium account. that 50k times 6 which is 300k. Way too much money to spend. And then you have to design each apt - time consuming.

here's another idea - 9. expand real estate market in the game creating a legitimate way to sell apartments and/or backgrounds in game. It could be at the art museum where users post their room designs with a price tag and whenever someone buys it the money gets transferred to your account automatically.

Is there any one communicating with the devs on these ideas. There's so many good ones. Do we as a group need to narrow down one as a majority vote to give the devs something to work on?

[Zephyr]

I was particularly annoyed when I found out that you only need prem to buy apartment – not use it. Unlike clothes/petnis, which you don’t lose but can’t use you can still use apt when prem runs out. Found this out a day or two after buying when someone else’s prem expired but found apt still available.
If I had known this I would have upgraded a non-prem and bought in her name: think I can still collect $1000/day. If I could sell for 50% I would still do that.

You can use one basic background and just tweak it – eg change a photo on wall for each AV.
Museum does not seem to be JPEG which is a problem. You could post design here with a watermark to be removed upon payment.

If forum was better used by members then Devs might take more notice.

[Overfiend]

how can the forum be better used so devs can take more notice?

[Vrook]

Casino used to pay a lot better when it first opened up. Now, if you're lucky, you pull some profit. If not, a loss is all you'll got.

Also, the moderators are in-touch with the devs. So, I suppose, some of the ideas that the members bring up, are brought to the attention of the devs.

And also, in my opinion, the implementation of a new mini-game, that would require some sort of micro-transactions, like, selling-buying stuff from other players, i.e appartments, backgrounds, or such, is quite a big hassle, that don't think will bring the wanted outcome. But we have to wait and see what's going to happen further on.

With all due respect,

[TwoToneRebel]

(08-14-2017, 09:07 PM)Lady_Alexa Wrote: STOCKS & SHARES

Every location on the Map (excluding Meadows Park) has a business.
So why not let everyone invest money on up to 3 businesses via the Bank.    We can invest as much as we wish, plus a transaction fee of $100.  The best performing business earn players money & the least performing loose players money.  
Also... a business on one server such as the Hats & Caps store on Beaver Bash would be classed as a separate business to the Hats & Caps store on Tight Lipped.  So the value would of the stock may be lower for the store on Tight Lipped, so there is a chance you could make more profit for lower priced stock.

This is a really interesting idea, but I think y'all have no idea just how long this would take to code. It took the devs quite a bit to implement the casino and bank, this is simulating an actual economy. That's stuff that only games with tons of resources (GTA V and World of Warcraft) can have without a problem. Even games like Fallout and Skyrim don't have actual economies like that.

This would be way too hard to expect the devs to code, especially for a mostly free game. It wouldn't be fair to ask them to make something as intricate as this.

[Joanna_Smith]

(08-16-2017, 05:23 AM)Tradeeasy Wrote: This is a discussion thread. I want people to say which of the items they want and don't want.

I dislike completely deciding everything on my own because that displays an unattractive quality of character since I could be doing something wrong. Teamwork allows for collaboration and compromises, and that will help VampZ succeed in the future.

•Deduct 500 coins from each daily quest
•Cut the arcade transfusion in half
•Increase amount of coins you get for vampire kills. It will be 15 p. kill.
•Lower caps for the transfusion perk
•Decrease human kill coins. It will be 5 p. kill.
•Decrease price of iron sets. 75 gold for plain iron. 200 for iron protection 1.
•Any other ideas?

For the increase/decrease they can be altered so maybe you want to increase something that says decrease, that's fine. Just say :


Lowest Brokerage - 0.005%

let me react in order:
- what daily quests?
- what arcade?
- vampires?
- transfusion perk?
- Human kills? i thought we were here to have romantic encounters...
- Sets?

for the most part, what are you talking about?

[Vrook]

That's just some spam bot.

[JohnSins]

Or we could just ask for realistic and relatable mini games to make money.... *cough* strip poker, craps, black jack *cough* This isn't GTA V nor are the devs rockstar, the suggestions should be plausible...

[TwoToneRebel]

(08-16-2017, 12:37 PM)JohnSins Wrote: Or we could just ask for realistic and relatable mini games to make money.... *cough* strip poker, craps, black jack *cough* This isn't GTA V nor are the devs rockstar, the suggestions should be plausible...

Another mini game idea that could work is for them to implement the dildo-fishing game that they made a while ago. Put it on the pier or something and it could be another way for people to make some cash.