Benefits for sex with NPCs

[Overfiend]

I agree with some form of reward for NPC sex whether it be exp points or money. However i think the exp points provided should be at a lower rate than sex with another user's avatar.  

Just based on my experience with the game & the habits of the devs, if they do decide to provide a reward it would be for new NPC sex scenes only.  They tend not to change old updates unless for an extreme case (like the alt-farming crisis which led to limiting the money available for new avatars).  Since this isn't an extreme case, i would expect them to provide an update like this in new scenes only.

I did propose an exchange of your accumulated Sex Exp points for Cash at the Bank thru a NPC sex scene with the Teller at the bank who has sex with you to test your sex experience before conducting the exchange.  However that suggestion would be an exchange as opposed to a reward.  

I also suggest that the NPC sex scene should be available for both males & females so that the reward or ability to exchange is fair.

[Avax69]

(06-22-2017, 10:22 PM)Overfiend Wrote: I agree with some form of reward for NPC sex whether it be exp points or money. However i think the exp points provided should be at a lower rate than sex with another user's avatar.  

Just based on my experience with the game & the habits of the devs, if they do decide to provide a reward it would be for new NPC sex scenes only.  They tend not to change old updates unless for an extreme case (like the alt-farming crisis which led to limiting the money available for new avatars).  Since this isn't an extreme case, i would expect them to provide an update like this in new scenes only.

I did propose an exchange of your accumulated Sex Exp points for Cash at the Bank thru a NPC sex scene with the Teller at the bank who has sex with you to test your sex experience before conducting the exchange.  However that suggestion would be an exchange as opposed to a reward.  

I also suggest that the NPC sex scene should be available for both males & females so that the reward or ability to exchange is fair.

The issue with this is it can and most likely would be abused by players, whether they're premium or not, so by doing this it'd be like they never got rid of alt farming because this is essentially what this is..........though it is a good idea

[Overfiend]

(06-23-2017, 06:18 AM)Avax69 Wrote: The issue with this is it can and most likely would be abused by players, whether they're premium or not, so by doing this it'd be like they never got rid of alt farming because this is essentially what this is..........though it is a good idea

For the Reward concept
The simple solution to that is limit the reward to once per NPC.  After you've earned your reward then you don't get it again on subsequent visits.  Same as in alt-farming. Free users only get money once you create the first avatar and not on subsequent avatars. That limits the abuse.

For the Exchange of Sex Exp points to Cash
For my idea to include an ability to exchange Sex Exp points for Cash - i don't see repetitive use of that feature as abuse because the Sex Exp points was earned through the time you spent having sex.  The same as in any job that pays cash for the time spent.  Therefore it's currency earned just in the form of Sex Exp points.  At this point Sex Exp points can only be used for poses.  Meanwhile the number of poses are limited created an excess amount of Sex Exp points.  Thus the ability to convert from one currency (i.e. Sex Exp Points) to Cash seems like a logic to get more use of the hard earned currency.

[JohnSins]

I would like the actual avatar banging the NPC instead of a flying dick, but then again this is an MMO. We shouldn't be telling the devs to commit their time and effort into a non social aspect of a social game. We have an incomplete casino with strip poker, Black Jack, goldfish(jk), and craps opportunities. We have an empty Cabaret that can be used as area with a SOCIAL minigame. Honestly, any update that would make MnF more livelier is a good update(which is anything that will make people more social).

[Zephyr]

(06-23-2017, 09:17 AM)Overfiend Wrote:

(06-23-2017, 06:18 AM)Avax69 Wrote: The issue with this is it can and most likely would be abused by players, whether they're premium or not, so by doing this it'd be like they never got rid of alt farming because this is essentially what this is..........though it is a good idea

For the Reward concept
The simple solution to that is limit the reward to once per NPC.  After you've earned your reward then you don't get it again on subsequent visits.  Same as in alt-farming. Free users only get money once you create the first avatar and not on subsequent avatars. That limits the abuse.

For the Exchange of Sex Exp points to Cash
For my idea to include an ability to exchange Sex Exp points for Cash - i don't see repetitive use of that feature as abuse because the Sex Exp points was earned through the time you spent having sex.  The same as in any job that pays cash for the time spent.  Therefore it's currency earned just in the form of Sex Exp points.  At this point Sex Exp points can only be used for poses.  Meanwhile the number of poses are limited created an excess amount of Sex Exp points.  Thus the ability to convert from one currency (i.e. Sex Exp Points) to Cash seems like a logic to get more use of the hard earned currency.

How would it be abused?   If it’s a large reward in cash then yes you could farm and you would have to restrict it in same way i.e. only the first AV created under an account could collect.   But it’s not likely to be a large reward say $50 dollars:  if that takes 2 minutes to complete you are only earning at same rate as in mini games.

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(06-23-2017, 11:29 AM)JohnSins Wrote: I would like the actual avatar banging the NPC instead of a flying dick, but then again this is an MMO. We shouldn't be telling the devs to commit their time and effort into a non social aspect of a social game. We have an incomplete casino with strip poker, Black Jack, goldfish(jk), and craps opportunities. We have an empty Cabaret that can be used as area with a SOCIAL minigame. Honestly, any update that would make MnF more livelier is a good update(which is anything that will make people more social).

The devs have made the game less social as people are now spending more time in mini games on own trying to earn money instead of interacting.   And the devs latest move, charging $4000 for the new FF position, is a bad precedent:  spend real money or a lot of time playing games to get it.

I don’t understand devs:  they opened up casino, shooting gallery and bank weeks before they had any purpose and still none for cabaret.

[Avax69]

(06-23-2017, 09:17 AM)Overfiend Wrote: For my idea to include an ability to exchange Sex Exp points for Cash - i don't see repetitive use of that feature as abuse because the Sex Exp points was earned through the time you spent having sex.  The same as in any job that pays cash for the time spent.  Therefore it's currency earned just in the form of Sex Exp points.  At this point Sex Exp points can only be used for poses.  Meanwhile the number of poses are limited created an excess amount of Sex Exp points.  Thus the ability to convert from one currency (i.e. Sex Exp Points) to Cash seems like a logic to get more use of the hard earned currency.

Is the exp earned yeah it is, but my point is anyone with a lvl 8 or 9 avatar can easily abuse this by just either sleeping with themselves to boost their lvl or with others, so by saying that it wouldn't really be abusing/cheating the system is kinda BS, now yes i do agree that while the exp itself is useless while stuck waiting for the next update and hoping its a pose you like to use your exp on is a bit cumbersome THIS wouldn't really be a solution to that backed up exp, it'd literally be alt farming all over again though in this case it wouldn't be as quick it'd still exist none the less, I'm all for benefits with NPC's and whatnot but the whole trading in SexP for currency is a bit ludicrous to me

[JohnSins]

(06-23-2017, 01:09 PM)Zephyr Wrote: The devs have made the game less social as people are now spending more time in mini games on own trying to earn money instead of interacting.   And the devs latest move, charging $4000 for the new FF position, is a bad precedent:  spend real money or a lot of time playing games to get it.

I don’t understand devs:  they opened up casino, shooting gallery and bank weeks before they had any purpose and still none for cabaret.

So does that mean we should ask to make it any more anti social? It really just comes down to what we believe is more important, an NPC "fix" or more ways to earn money while playing with other users.

[Overfiend]

Well Avax69, i can't win everyone over.  So i'll just agree to disagree with you.  
I'm still in favor of it because i've earned my Sex Exp points (regardless of who i had sex with) and i would like to reap the benefits of it even if it means i could only convert it to cash because no new poses are available or interesting.  
Regardless, you're entitled to disagree with me and I with you.

[Zephyr]

(06-23-2017, 09:51 PM)JohnSins Wrote:

(06-23-2017, 01:09 PM)Zephyr Wrote: The devs have made the game less social as people are now spending more time in mini games on own trying to earn money instead of interacting.   And the devs latest move, charging $4000 for the new FF position, is a bad precedent:  spend real money or a lot of time playing games to get it.

I don’t understand devs:  they opened up casino, shooting gallery and bank weeks before they had any purpose and still none for cabaret.

So does that mean we should ask to make it any more anti social? It really just comes down to what we believe is more important, an NPC "fix" or more ways to earn money while playing with other users.

How do you manage to reverse the point so spectacularly?   The NPC thing is a complete sideline.   There just needs to be a better way for players to earn money.

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(06-23-2017, 08:57 PM)Avax69 Wrote:

(06-23-2017, 09:17 AM)Overfiend Wrote: For my idea to include an ability to exchange Sex Exp points for Cash - i don't see repetitive use of that feature as abuse because the Sex Exp points was earned through the time you spent having sex.  The same as in any job that pays cash for the time spent.  Therefore it's currency earned just in the form of Sex Exp points.  At this point Sex Exp points can only be used for poses.  Meanwhile the number of poses are limited created an excess amount of Sex Exp points.  Thus the ability to convert from one currency (i.e. Sex Exp Points) to Cash seems like a logic to get more use of the hard earned currency.

Is the exp earned yeah it is, but my point is anyone with a lvl 8 or 9 avatar can easily abuse this by just either sleeping with themselves to boost their lvl or with others, so by saying that it wouldn't really be abusing/cheating the system is kinda BS, now yes i do agree that while the exp itself is useless while stuck waiting for the next update and hoping its a pose you like to use your exp on is a bit cumbersome THIS wouldn't really be a solution to that backed up exp, it'd literally be alt farming all over again though in this case it wouldn't be as quick it'd still exist none the less, I'm all for benefits with NPC's and whatnot but the whole trading in SexP for currency is a bit ludicrous to me

A lvl 8 gets no more points with another lvl 8 than a lvl 4 does with another lvl 4:  a lvl 8 gets no more points with a lvl 5 than a lvl 6 does with a lvl 3.   If your point was that lvl 9s could transfer a lot of EXP to created lvl 1s and convert that to money then that could be condisered farming.

[Zephyr]

Overfiend, you said that there was an "alt-farming crisis ". What was that?
Some people could outbid others in auctions but the price of costumes or rooms did not go up.
Girls now spend more time playing games to get money for costumes than interacting.
Less money comes into game now, some can pay real money to get it: who has it helped? It's not more equal.